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- From: Charles Schultz <sacrophyte AT gmail.com>
- To: "Reese, George Clifford" <reese AT illinois.edu>
- Cc: "ctrl-shift AT lists.mste.illinois.edu" <ctrl-shift AT lists.mste.illinois.edu>
- Subject: Re: [Ctrl-Shift] more thoughts about "cult of efficiency"
- Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 18:59:21 -0600
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Hi Charles,
I do think it’s appropriate for the CTRL-Shift list. Cc to them if you like.
I think there is a reason why the Mission Hill video resonates with our group. It’s because we DO believe there many vital components of school that are not measured and that the effort to measure them does more harm than good.
I think the authors of the PARCC third grade PBA that I looked at yesterday have no intention of doing harm, and yet I think they are doing damage. A third grader who feels anxious and sad after taking that test has not been helped. They certainly haven’t been better educated except in the arbitrariness of school assessments.
The lesson I took from Callahan book is that this dream of managing education is getting close to a hundred and twenty years old. It has not helped. Just the opposite.
Deborah Meier: "The whole point of an education is to help you learn how to exercise judgment. And you can't do that if the expert adults in your school are not allowed to exercise theirs."
-George
George Reese
Office for Mathematics, Science, and Technology Education (MSTE)
505 East Green St.
Suite 102Champaign, IL 61820
From: Charles Schultz [mailto:sacrophyte AT gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 7:24 PM
To: Reese, George Clifford
Subject: more thoughts about "cult of efficiency"
Good evening, George!
At various times, I am able to peck away at Callahan's book; in some ways, I am finding it quite dry (maybe the style of writing?), but in other ways, there are some powerful things in there that are not hard to uncover.
Here is my latest "big thought" after quickly going through the first four chapters; efficiency aims to reduce waste. Either I missed it, or have not yet gotten to the part where Callahan explains, in the eyes of the "efficiency experts", what exactly waste is. And I think this is a very big question to answer. The adage "one man's trash is another man's treasure" can certainly be applied here. There are some other related "big questions" like "what is public education" and "what is the purpose of public schools", which are questions I think we need to ask frequently and wrestle with.
My fear is that there is not an absolute answer to those questions. Thus the myriad of "educational reforms" and approaches to teaching (whether it be pedagogy or applied educational theory). But if we assume there is an absolute, objective answer, what would it be?
We can say, off the cuff, that the sole purpose of public schools is to put kids in college, thus one measure of "efficiency" is to calculate the ratio of either dollars or hours spent getting x number of kids into college. But what if that is not the sole purpose of public schools? Then the efficiency formula is inaccurate because it measures the wrong thing.
I would lean towards a view that says the purpose of education is to equip learners to succeed at life and society (not one or the other, but both). But how does one measure that? Surely accountability is necessary, right? Or maybe accountability is built-in, just annoyingly slow; if this kind of education is not done well, you end up with "bad" citizens. Talk about high-stakes!!
I wasn't sure if this was appropriate for the CTRL-Shift email list or not. I was tempted to send this email to the list, but first wanted to test the waters with you, since you loaned me the book. :)
Happy thoughts for the rest of the week,
--
Charles Schultz
- Re: [Ctrl-Shift] more thoughts about "cult of efficiency", Charles Schultz, 01/28/2015
- Re: [Ctrl-Shift] more thoughts about "cult of efficiency", Cathy Murphy, 01/28/2015
- Re: [Ctrl-Shift] more thoughts about "cult of efficiency", Jessica Pitcher, 01/28/2015
- Re: [Ctrl-Shift] more thoughts about "cult of efficiency", Bievenue, Lisa Anne, 01/28/2015
- Re: [Ctrl-Shift] more thoughts about "cult of efficiency", Charles Schultz, 01/28/2015
- Re: [Ctrl-Shift] more thoughts about "cult of efficiency", Bievenue, Lisa Anne, 01/28/2015
- Re: [Ctrl-Shift] more thoughts about "cult of efficiency", Jessica Pitcher, 01/28/2015
- Re: [Ctrl-Shift] more thoughts about "cult of efficiency", Cathy Murphy, 01/28/2015
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